House of Cards: An LGBTQIA2+ Podcast
House of Cards: An LGBTQIA2+ Podcast

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House of Cards: an LGBTQ Podcast: Lavender Scare

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Today! We talked about how tired we were and pride months and our different views on its events (which are all valid as fuck. Taking a suggestion from @kkxspms on Twitter we did The Lavender Scare! Which was a topic we really enjoyed doing! Tune in next week for our next episode, Sex, and Gender. If you can't that's all right, I hope you have a good rest of your life and remember you are valid as fuck. 

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Written by Avery Ann

Edited by Jaxson Stiles

Produced by: Jaxson , Avery and Simone

Music: Lofi-Missing memories , lofi fading away, lofi fly and lofi escapism.  

All, welcome to the House of Guards on lgbd podcast. I'm a very am and it's pride month, but alas, I'm kind of tired. It's sorry, it's pride month. Sorry, I award you rown. I thought you said it's bread month, so I brought my loaves, loaves, my loaves. Hi, I'm Jackson the comedian. No, I'm not, oh, by the way, because aver forgot, because a we is kind of we'll talk of it are in a bit, but exit. But it was pronouns. As far as we know, she here. Probably eventually she they will get to that. Probably not. Somebody's driving a car down the pathway, the walking pathway, down my house. That's side the way. I currently don't care what pronounce for you used with me. That made me because I'm just soda first. I don't care, but anything. Will find out later. Do you want some of myself? I'm not allowed to you, Zola, because, remember, we do not promote, I'm league, like illegally taking drugs. So know what, you're not going to offer me drugs that you got for a skybe because they overlought me, and that's the illegal smone right. It doesn't feel like I got prescribed them. I was there for five minutes and she's like you can go on, aloft, yeah, that's being prescribed them. So stupid. anyways, it wasn't my durn. Yeah, yeah, there we go. Okay, hi, I'm smone. I use pronounced. All of them are fine. At the moment. I'm tired, depressed, same thing. I got vexed today. That attle. How's your all feeling? My arm actually feels completely fine. People, Avery. No, sorry, no, sorry, some Moan. I want to say this because there are two levels. There's the people that feel fine and there's some people who don't, and there's no one between. I know. Yeah, completely fine, like, other than like a little neck ach from like breaking it yesterday. Yeah, because I post had a lot of pain and I did all the things right, like I drink water, I flex, like, I move my arm. I didn't do I didn't done to that. I drink an energy drink. Exactly. That's what it's really just random. Yeah, I don't fiser, though. Okay, I'm only we can only get FISA. Really. Oh, there's in Calgary, there's astrazenecamadorna and fiser. No, up six, there's a new little my class who have been getting Maderna under age. Yeah, we can only get Maderna and...

...fisor so. No, we can only get my daughter might have been. I as as I knew when I got mine, piser was the only one allowed for people sixteen. Maderna is also allowed for people who are that's you. I haven't. I haven't really kept up with a recently, but for one I did. I was like a no, don't do the I see me go in unique linkle. Oh, where can you find us on the Internet? Right, okay, you can find us on Instagram at House of cards underscore podcast, on twitter at lgbt underscore deck and on Tick Tock as house of cards podcast, except we have not posted on our podcast because I do not have access, or not podcast, on our tick tock because I personally do not have access to it. If I did, I would fuck it up. Yeah, Jackson hasn't given us the pass word. It's true. Did you forget it? Did you lose the password? Oh, I have no idea what fastood is. Now I have you. Maybe don't try and find us on Tick Tock, because there's nothing there. It's an empty void gown. Maybe wait of it it's all. I have it on my phone. Watch, Look, look, look, here's what I'll do. I'll make a tick tock right now. Oh my God, look, I can go on it myself. This is proof that I have access to the tick tock and these two do not, because get it to us. No, anyway, goodbye. What an excellent tick tock. Yeah, why should you follow us? There? All, because it's pride month. So guess what we're doing? PRIDEFUL, being prideful? No, what not? prideful looking day as fuck. We are sad. I mean, you're not wrong. I'm very tired you too. Yeah, no, it's it's fun. It's been a week and it's only Tuesday. Oh Oh honey, yes, I lied. Simone was right. It is pride will being prideful now is a very prideful all the time. Absolutely on me and Simone finally joining that. And yes, yeah, definitely not because it is pride month, but you guys should follow our twitter, because our twitter every single day will be posting a fun fact that relates to the LGBT community. Could be about the past, could be but the future. Could we go now? Yeah, I don't. Think. I don't think that you could really post facts about about the future? I think I right. I don't. I don't think that's how sex work. Oh, you can check on instagram on Tuesday and...

Thursdays when they will be a post about it an individual who identifies with the other gpt community about that. I do want to talk about about avery and hope. Pride now, Gay Pride now. It's not bad avery. It's not like you suck. No, I think my favorite thing about every during pride month is she goes full support of aunt or supportive mother. Oh my God, yeah, she doesn't act like a gay person exactly. Oh No, I do like a do know, you back like a mother ally, because you go be on every day beyond. That's why you're like that, because supportive mothers always go beyond. True, it's just, it's just me. I'm just a it is a every is just like. If you're like I feel like somebody would actually missed it, avery for being like a straight Porson, like a straight alle mother. My God, I could never use you act like bisexual person. No, so does a very. She's I do. Yeah, I no more days, though. Arey is like ruled up jeans every single day. Hi, I am it's the reason we have stereotypes. I cut my jeans and like I wing my eyeliner, I cut my jeans I wear dad shirts. Do you guys want to hear what I wore to school today? Yes, farmer jeans and a Dark Blue Alma shot. Sounds straight, but okay, yeah, straight to see for my entire life. I UN ironically stand. Now that's hilarious. What do you need? And I wrote on ironically or ironically? I ironically stand stand. Are you okay? No, never, I need to go to bed knowing you need a mile a milk. I knew. Do need a mouth, but you need to be eighteen plus to do that. I mean, fair the frock. That wasn't you know. We're going to move on from that before we get, you know, in trouble. Facts. Um, so, okay, sorry, I know. I want to ask you an opinion. Also, who is a child with them? Your mom? Now, that was my mom. That was you. Yeah, like she was the child, or she's with a child also, Simon, yes, your mother would have a child. She has you exactly now. She was the one yelling your mother, don't took a child anyway. What the Hell? Where we...

...just roosted my mom. Let's talk about Avery's mom. Oh, got it, got it, got it. God, Samona so focused on it. Sums like, Oh my God, it's about me with like most of the time it is, but we're talking about avery right now. Under we'll make it fun of avery right now. Okay, wait, you're trying. I would ask your opinions. So all the time I see those pride calendars. What do you guys think about that? Right calendar? Would it's like the day? Yeah, I saw one today. Eighteen is for ace people. I don't like them personally. Yeah, it kind of weird. I don't really. I don't really get it because I mean like the whole month is yeah, it's not really like specific days, but I mean if it was like an advent calendar and he got like chocolate, oh no, that's the best idea, but like one way were skittled up skills. No, no, those, I'm going to buy advent calendars and paint them. I was thinking, okay, so it's the days of the month, right, but every day you pull like a chocolate and the chocolate is like a different pride for like well, no, but like skittles are just gay. So like yeah, but that's the single skittle and a bit thin, or like a bag of skittles. I've a bag of skittles, dude, like the Halloween bags ta St Rainbow. I said. I think we should do both, though, because it could educate people on the sexualities and genders. True, because, like on the back of the flag, be a technic this is the homosexual flag and this is used to Badama. That you know. Anyway, I don't think this, like shortened dates in the pride month, should be a sexuality because, like it's supposed to be inclusive and like will all in time. Yeah, but I mean, like Y'all, do you? Y'All? Do you? Yeah, yeah, we're reach their out. Wait, hang on, I just had a million dollar idea. What different flag beamed skittles? So like each color inside the skittles is a different color scheme from flag. Like a wait, so like a skittle is like a multicolor. No, so, like you know how skittles have multiple colors and it's like, oh, it's rainbow, okay. So if you put like a buy flag skittles packet, you would have blue, purple and pink. Yeah, AH, and then, like if you had ace, like you know, like all the things I have in question with that. Yes, what do we do when flakes have the same colors but the colors are in different orders? Well, the flag would be on the package of yeah, right, okay, so, okay, you be able to tell the difference and then on the back there would be like a little description of what it is. Okay, but the only thing is that skittles doesn't call it skidle.

STARTED FID month. Well, they should know whocause they they don't, because the rainbow should only go to prior to the people, to lgbt community. So they get rid of their rainboat for us. What if they start do what I think is better? I think they should have like maybe like a thing like that, but I like it better when the skittles are white. To be like, you deserve it. Yeah, fair, I don't know. But like for the advent calendar specifically, okay, for the advoct calendar, I agree with that. Like I really want to make an advent calendar now. Just paint over the little boxes with the flag colors. Yes, oh my gosh, okay, we're doing this. I'm gonna think I can find one on I was on you're doing this anyways. Should we get into our topic? Probably, Oh, Jackson, refuse. Never mind them, mind the Jackson show. I found a hair tie nice was under my pillow. I call them ponytails. What he yeah, but that's what you put your what? That's what your group becomes on, what your hair goes into. I don't I call them Bony Dowl. I don't know. You know, people call them bobbles. What we're I thought in the UK people good pair timeble, like my fad dude from her bell. Yeah, my family calls them pony shell holders, which I think is wor yeah, that's crush very that's very wordy. It's a mouthful, avery. You don't get to speaksty if you wouldn't. That's very warty, a very little get all of us quick. Let's just read the square squirrel quick, avery. How lordy they all? Yeah, but like a mouthful. That's what you make me and someone do all the time. Well, you guys, as you should that. Edit it then listen. Me and simone suffer from depressions and it's someone just got antidepressions. Today. We all don't have antidepressions prepared, avery, some of US still. Some of US planting. That says. I literally couldn't read through this skit, the script, because I was in the middle of a screaming match. Okay, on the couch of sleep, deciding not to eat and then being forced to eat. Shut up right, God, keep you lave. That like something I would say. Oh my God, lies, cosplay, you're driving. Cosplay was on point, one hundred percent. I would ask you, guys, sorry, I'm getting off topic. No, I'll addit this out and we'll talk about it later. I'm mind. Okay, lavender scale. What is this, you ask? That's when you go into stage and you swallow the LAVENDER and you die. It's...

...really I went into I couldn't go into stage with a sage like, if you don't know what stages it's like a store with all the smelly things. I couldn't go in for a while because I would have sensory like shutdown. Well, my basically, I would completely like panic and all that, like sensory overloads. I would have a sensory overlook, and that's also what I couldn't go in the same mall because at noon a train would ring, and so when it rain. The first time it happened, I screamed and started crying. I'm mentally normal. Dr Anyway. Anyway, diving back into the LGBC. Why are you guys so quiet? This is making me sorry. I would I just went down a bad thought train and I'm trying to rewrote. I'm just being I'm just I'm just being quiet. Okay, don't be quiet, make this funny. Come on, stop, stop gives that. Show US your feet for you baby. Guide back into the LGBTQ plus history. Today we're going to be talking about the lavender scare, a topic that was request by at KK x spms on twitter with this was requested by somebody. This was requested by somebody you don't like. God, that's so say. Someone from having a day, someone hasn't been a notch at me and Ivery have like been screaming about this all day, and someone with like yeah, we're probably were losing our minds our very first twitter interaction. Oh my God, we need to hype problem so much again. It's at KK x spms on twitter. If just because I don't know, if I don't think it's in here. Another reason why we're doing this is because apparently they needed help with the will not help that they need to pass the social class. So we're going to make this episode and hopefully you will be able to listen to it in time to pass the social class and if anyone else need something to talk about for the social class, there you go, just interacting us up. But for me, yeah, all the way. This is what we say. If you interact on twitter, we are going to listen and we'll most likely going to make a talk about it because we'll horn you for attention. We arena throw, not why we started a podcast. That attention. Morse. That's what some moon did it and then me and they were really you know what, so are we, and it's just a whole thing. And Yeah, a throw not new in history. The lavender scare is something that doesn't have much knowledge or coverage. constoning. It join the MCC coffee era. Well, error. was there McCarthy in the cold during the Cold War? Se a president, probably, no, you are haven't learned about this. You are great above a savor. Oh yeah, basically, like during the Cold War there was like a whole bunch of anti communist shit. So like around the first one was like the s and then the second one was like around the s. You know, this might have been something...

...good to put in the like actual script. Well, you know, it is. It's just if you keep reading. Shut up. No, but I would wonder if he was like a president or something. It is he just not. Is this is a random guy. They're like yeah, we'll get a cult the mccoffee era. Yeah, while his name was McCarthy. So that's why. Okay, yeah, he wasn't a president. He was just some guy that was like screw communism. Oh so, like all of the kids are my school cool, cool. In the Cold War, Americans became divided between communism and anti communism. I think that's capitalisming. I don't want to know. I don't want to sound like I know everything, but I feel like anti communism is just capitalism. Yeah, but I mean like everything that I was like researching and all the technical terms called it anti communism. I'm not sure if it was like kind of considered something else back back then, but we don't care. It's capitalism and capitalism is rown. What artful fear of the U ss are connections. People became prosecuted for being, or suspected of being, a Communist. Well, tied me up. The love and a scarte of quote. Around the same time as the second red scale, when any communist, and sorry, I just had a fucking joke, the lavender scale, our code, or in the same time as the second red scarue, when any communist, and I'll kiss and leftist or leftist theories will feared. I'm just quick because I don't I hear it all the time, every and you're a small one here. Okay, is the USSARE? Yes, sorry, that's basically just like Russia, communist Rutua. Oh Really? Yeah, what it is like? United States of soup, Superior Russia? Um, bunny, for it was something something Soviet Russia here. Double Check the Union of those Soviet Socialist Republics. Okay, I got your Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union. Oh, I know, that's something else. Sorry, my bad. You're right, the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union, just that's all you got to think about. Some would take it away. So, as a Commi this is near and dear to my heart myself. Oh Yeah, okay. anyways, UM, starting around the mid twenty century, customer service voice, the lavender scare. Listen, no one's gonna care on you. It's okay, okay, you're okay. I'm like okay, I'm like, we're trying to pet you, like, because if you're like scared, okay. Basically, Um homophobes were like gay people are...

Commi sympathizers, and it basically started. Sorry, what wrong? What they wrong? Though he were it. They weren't necessarily wrong, however. It was thought that gay people were more easily manipulated and they posed a national threat to the country. which all that is, like yeah, fucking fear me, I'm a national threat, like I'm gonna put that on my resume. National Threat, national ulate? No, but easily manipulated. That's how you get higher. We're saying this, is it? Like this isn't true, like, like it's not wrong, like we're not gonna say it's true, but it's definitely not wrong. Yes, but no, okay. Anyways, the lavender scare was the federal response to the homophobia and normalized persecution of gay three Poole gate, three poole that again. Some rupple again, okay. It normalized the persecution of gay people through bureaucratic institutionalism. Wow, that is no bull. Went from like Simon to some Mon, to summon to some move. She Simmons in bed, I can tell yeah, yeah, yeah, just go a free holy go on avery. That's I'm like reading your part. I'm a call this shit cool. Yeah, some MA car cray, ideologist behind the red scares. You know, he was the one who really said fuck communism. He really went into this whole lavender scare thing. He really adopted it. So, working in the State Department, McCarthy blacklisted and fired four hundred and twenty five federal employees for allegations of homosexuality. That was just in like the first year, or so. He the men that try to day that's imparted the four hundred and twenty five. We'REJEC so he used homophobia to his advantage, rallying more pupil to join his cross by calling anyone who opposed him a communist or a cock stucker. And you know I am both. You know how toxic masculinity was back in the day. He probably knows a book sucker though. Right, okay, that was my thought too. But anyways, in one thousand nine hundred and fifty three, the executive order one hundred and four five zero was signed, which set up many...

...restrictions for federal employment and government, including any private contracting or military so approximately five thousand people were forcibly outed, fired and barred from their jobs and shoved into the public eye. So yeah, fucked that, and here Jackson is a telling me to fuck capitalism bitches. There we go. Excellent. He's highlighted in for me as well. I just wanted to make sure you got that. I feel like that's an important addition to the paragraph. So I need a minute. I had a milk a while Gooes, my bets hate me a first trying to understand what Hu meant by I had milk a while ago. Like I somehow equated milk to alcohol, but that's that's not right. I almost had three percent. Oh my good mans, I almost have three percent milk. Is a lot of us and tallest person. HMM, if you don't know that will basically send me to the emergency room because, well, either I'm going to be shitting like everything out, I'm not, I'm not gonna be able Shit, or I'm going to be going to emergency. Do all three. That's what I said. It could be both. Why? Maybe? Why the police policies? Many new policies arose. I'm just debating something or now. I won't make fun avery just yet. Many new policies arose to keep homosexuals out of government positions, like such things as if you like Dick, get out and you know it. Just feel like that. Sometimes getting a text message it was, I'm sorry, luted procedures to search at homosexual story interviews. Do you like Dick? Yes, fuck right now. That is serious. That is a real example, looking for signs of sexual orientation and looking around the gay bars. Many people were victimized by association. So basically, a very who is secretly a straight person would be victimized. Imagine, can you imagine every being straight? Oh, a magic free accidentally had a straight person on the health bet. Okay. Such recedures spread to state and local government as well, leading to an Xmayed of twelve million queer men and women to sign an oath attesting to moral priority in order to keep their jobs. The exitituive. Sorry, y'all, executive, the executive. Say That again. I care you, executive, say it...

...like you've said it again. Apree, I absolutely dare you exactly Chi Dick all, I don't have one. I sew a dick onto you and then drop it off. That's intense violent. I don't like when people like sound outwards to me as if I'm in grade one. I'm just trying to help you. That's not going to help me. That's going to making has issues that he needs to resolve in therapy, don't we all? This is on the wrong thing. The executive order was repealed by President Fiel Clinton in one thousand nine hundred and ninety five. When you think about it, that was literally not that long ago. So yeah, let's thirty years ago, less than thirty years ago. Guys like there are people who older than thirty, like a received. My mom was like born before it was repealed. Mine too, and my mom's young. We wouldn't again we're talking about this and this was in America. Just saying this was mostly in America, but was probably something similar was happening around the world. Yeah, this led to the military to adopt the Donas don't tell posse and Sony and homosexual officers. It is unknown how many individuals took the lights as a result of the lavender scale, but we can take estimations that it is not a small number. Since described as a vicious witch hunt, John a director John Howard began working on his documentary the Lavens lavender scare in two thousand and nine with victimized gay astronomer Frank Kemeny. This film is inspired by David K Johnson's novel the lavender scare, which came out in two thousand and nine. John Howard's film is an hour long and was released in two thousand and seventeen and has won eleven awards, as it should. I'm totally going to watch it later Netflix, party, party. I don't think it's on Netflix. Yeah, it's like a really understand portion of history that is rarely taught in schools. I myself did not learn anything about the lavender scare, despite having learned about the Cold War and the red scares this year. So I'd really like to, you know, thank at KK x Spasms again for requesting this topic, because it was very enlightening to learn this and I was always feel free to do your own research and maybe check out the documentary. Oh, and remember you are valid as fuck. Bills this fuck. I just, I'm just, I'm just wondering a very Jackson couldn't Sumana said that last bit in Rome paragraph, but it like switch topics. I'll take what I'm given. Jackson, I'm Avery's...

...bitch. What I know? It's all one topic. Technically. Well, yeah, but like its avery, if I'm just joking, how you always give yourself the best bots you fit. No, what Holy Shit we would like in dental pages of topics, Tim Yeah, Cuz, and we've done any ideas, many ideas. That we don't want to do because I don't know how much I trust. Okay, so that one was written by every simone, a recent he now, so what was I going to ask you guys? Oh, yeah, so that's the topic. We loved it. It was amazing. How like, what are your guys as like? Okay, so privacy is a thing. Yeah, as it's as it should be. Yeah, we know, we know, privacies you get. Yeah, so privacy is a thing. What are your guys is love of privacy? For the PODCAST? Don't say where I live and don't say my other name. Yes, poofy pants. Yeah, don't say Boof we pants. Totally Pan. Yeah, pretty much same goes here. Just address. So you guys don't even care about like if they knew what you look like. Not Really, not really. I'm kind of home I'm going on the same page? Why? No, because I was just wondering if, like, we will all kind of like, if we will kind of like keeping up the faceless shield for like other people, if we were like kind of funny, if we all like said we're okay with showing her face and then never did. Definitely done that. We should have taken a self Wei when we were all together and posted it on our instagram. My God, God, have well, I guess you guys got to come back down our come on. Yes, O, yes, if I never was go on my like I've all favor was going on. You guys should just come down for like a week. Oh my God, we should again. Yeah, and just like we did, but look together. But Oh my God, God, wait, I'm so bittter to do. I'm so glad I didn't take my own car up, by the way, because my alternator actually exploded while I was at school the other day. Oh, bad, explosional, like no, like it just broke, but low. Oh, I was like, did your car explode any day? She has to make it more dramatic. Exactly. Think you. You're welcome. So that's why I'm a liar. Yeah, so I think I think we should end the episode here. Sure,...

I conclude. That's what you think. Sure, you know what. Fuck you. You're going to be here for another hour and you're gonna have to edit this. Oh my God, my brother keeps bothering me to go ride ATV's with him. No, you should count like. Yeah, sounds like a bad idea. Yeah, I know, I wouldn't. Anyway, we hope to see next week so you can tune into our next episode, which right now I don't know what that is, because I'm a dumb fucking bitch. Ye Do. I don't know her and I'm gonna give me some I'll find out, like a five in five seconds. I just don't think we've decided. I think we have. HMM, I mean, have you decided? Next week you can tune in for our sex and gender episode. We were talking about sex and gender, so make sure you come in to listen to that. Guys, I am I met. I'm posting this tomorrow. Ah, we talked about this correct. I love you guys so much. Anyway, tune in next week for our sex and gender but if you can't, that is okay and I hope you have a good rest of your life and hopefully you don't die. Hopefully, but you know, maybe you might. That's not good. But you know you don't like Thosey corls all sometimes. You know anything else we need to add? Well, it is. Fuck. I'M gonna go make that popcorn. Stay Gay by. Don't think about what comes after gotta Bang your knees. You see here. Don't think about what comes after all what came to you. Just gotta Bang your knees and you fall. What if you don't? What if you find.

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