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House of Cards: An LGBT Podcast
House of Cards: An LGBT Podcast

Episode · 5 months ago

House of Cards: LGBTQ History: The greeks

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Today! we talked about anicent greek and their prespective of the gay community. We talked about transgender worshippers, their view on gay sex, gay marraiges, sappho, and asexuality in the patheon. It was a lot of fun and we hope you also enjoy it! We hope to see you next week and if not, have a good rest of your life, and remember you are vaild as fuck

Written by Avery Ann
Edited by Jaxson Stiles

Produced by: Jaxson , Avery and Simone

Music: Lofi-Missing memories , lofi fading away, lofi fly and lofi escapism.

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I hate you hate you to quick before you go topomotous. Can I just say what the topic is, because I kind of came up with itand I'm very excited about it. I like love the idea, yes, okay, so you canfind us, Oh what promote now, because I can justended a Pun. I don't like so yeah, okay Pakers. You can find us on Instar ahouse of cards under score podcast on twitter at Lger score deck on not Tumbler. We have a tumbler, butwe're not really promoting it. On tick talk was were an echo. I don't know my wife,I so should be dude anyways. You can find us on tick. Tock at House of cards,L GT, yeah you're, getting it chill you as okay. So before we got intoconversation. I really want to talk about this. In that I I love this. I came up this idea a bitago was it last week we came out for thatbefore we record it, but so we've talked a bit about like the pridehistory, but we didn't exactly talk about LB history, so we kind of camefor the deas that Alger history is very long and we want to break down the ideaof like it's a trending thing. So we're going to talk about five eras,the Greek and Roman Arrow, which is today the Mith Evil and dockage era. IfI'm correct avery like medieval kind of Middle Dark Ages, yeah and then I thinkwe did the S S Vitorian, it would not O no. I Nisan Renaissance Renaissance kind of Victorian into modern time era,but the eighty I think, seventy to...

...eight eighteenth century or somethinglike that, it'll be very broad in that kind of spection, because you know Idon't think a lot happened in L, history we'll find out and then alllast one will be talking about about the s and the two sands and now thetwenty one thousand and all of twenty. Second, you know in Morar one that I amreally loving. Actually this topic, because the research I am having the time of my life. Oh sorry, Jackson, you can cut this outif you want. I think we should also do like how the punk movement in the s fewold homosexuality. I think we're talk for that in the nine. I really was verybad, any big moments from like the time a grandparents were born to know no cause. I just I I have like actualbooks that I can do research out of for that it. Well, we know, what's small,writing, I'm very passionate about it, anyways yeah! Let's leave that in I'll, let it these but O lo a amazing, yeah avery. I have some bad news,though I talk to you manager, your generalmanager, my general manager. That's also me, I'm all of you, I'm everyonesaid Romancer up myself on Romata and all of the Verona that I do a verymultitude of job and you were alone. Your performance and research has notbeen up to the part that we're expecting Jackson Suck Good Dick, we'llgonna have to lat Yo go Simon. I have some good news for you. Your General Mantra said you've beenexcelling at showing up on time, I'm time contributing to the episode...

...so we're promoting you to researcher fuck. I ever you get to do nothing butshow up and sometimes contribute to the K Okayama if anyone's like nobody getMad Ato Mon. When we make these jokes, there is a legitimate reason. I don't,as one said it, but there was a ligia reason why I have symptoms disorder andno therapist wants to touch me. You can't use that because so to me andARY Vines, I'm what conditions I can cut this out of your mode, but Samoasdoesn't deal with physical school as well as me, and maybe do it was notbuilt for Samoan. I'm sil excited yeah. It's a alwaysbuilt different men. Abe Do better in the school system, so we're able tobalance school and okay, but, like we're literally academically on Pale,we are. We have an exact eity. Seven percent average the both of us we didit. We like did the math over the weekend and wehad the exact same average. Technically I probably higher than higher the lowerthan yours, because I've completed more closes than you, I mean, but we only did he this schoolyear yeah, but I've completed almost. I don't know. I've onlycompleted for and you've completed it three. So that's a for as well, so oneha anyway, the COPAS man, I'm eating, isfull of balls and I don't know what to think about that good chocolate. What Iheard chocolate omance wrong talking about balls, let's get into ourtopic for say because well, if you know Greek history, zoot Zeus puts his ballsand everything. That's so ta he's got one big thunder cock. Oh my God, I oi'mearlier. We don't know it's fake, but...

...puts it everywhere. So let's jump right in so yeah. Personally, I cannot hear orthink about anything break without also associating it with day. Oh Merape, itis the letter association because you know they both start with G andsometimes my brain works that way or when I think o with. I think a to no, I to do that's weird anyway. I love. I love that or maybe you know it's just the factthat Greeks have like the earliest record of Sam sex marriages thatactually predate heterosexual, marriage, so yeah exactly right. It's incredible!I like Pramp, so we of to that's a big ASS rip. Additionally, Plato praisedhomosexuality in his early readings and Aristotle, supported them as well. Imean big oof that Plato actually later called homosexuality as spin andeverything. But I mean that's: That's not hog. We internalized homophoneinternal, I hemophilia exactly like evidence of a tonal home, was rob it inher sister beginning. There are many unidentified images ofintimate mail couples that are referred to as Eric tes and Iran, Eromena IronRomenus, Romanos, drams Talkin. I rot to to sayanything to interupt you but think about it. It has the wood arrowsin it. So I think it's going it's like Arrows Meno. It's like I'm saying arrows and insexual love. No, because I googled the pronunciation and I listen to it on youtube. Well, that's dumb continue anyway,Thoughi.

I listened to the pronunciationliterally three minutes ago, and then I was like my brain saw the word andcompletely just like parted. My brain aroma makes more sense exactly anyways. They mean lover and loved one whichthat is just so fucking cute man and the ideal was that both of thesepartners would be inspired by Eros who's, the, like God of Passionate Loveand we've actually talked about him in our episode on the kinds of Greek cloth, and you know, the hope was that thesepartners would result in the improvement of each individual tofurther their worthiness of the other. That's so cute, so cute we love itbring it back. I feel like eve well, he was looking at them was like somethingsmells a little fruit, yeah, exactly everything, smelled, fruity and ancientGreece. Well, they did have a lot of oil and all of the grape, so great trueyeah, yeah grapes right all right. We've already raps are gay. Okay, culture: We claim that rapes havea limp, Rif wrist. Sorry, okay, we've already touched on Sapphothe woman, loving poet who was born on the now world famous island of Lesbos.I to those we absolutely fucking icon sure- is the famous island of Lesbian, the famous island of Lesbians, justjust on our plans. Oh modesty, honestly les post is like the real life versionof the island that wonder women lived on. I think the Mosul is that that isthe best thing. I've ever heard,...

...anyways inspiring the terms of Saffi andlesbian. Her poetry was famous for love and passion for both genders: ABisexual Fucking, icon immaculate, as well as narrates various infatuationsfor women Quichi. She was exiled later forreasons unrelated to being homosexual and was later allowed to return. So sheprobably just like killed someone yeah t t I I kind of want to see if I canfind out what she did Kay she like winked at someone wrong. Maybe maybe maybe she was a witch, a no wait. Those a European thing likethat, we're not to that far in history, yet right, gossips to actually time traveler and get somestuff on time all the time. That's a tame that is late and that's why I'mdoing so good in history right now and of course, the Greek gods and deitiesfamously practicing modern American ideals for gender and sexuality. Therehave been new discussions on the Goddess Artemis depicting a sexualityand a romanticism, the God Hermes, representing interchangeable, Ginter,Gente, fuck e center and how pretty much all the Gods appear: Pan Sexualnow, okay, so Artemis, I'm actually going to get into a sex, wait hang on,but I looked into her for a hot second and she was literally like the goddessof delivery for babies. Yeah, I'm I'M gonna get into anyway andsorry it's a little artemus. He is a Botha pitch, but right, I actually looked up quickly. TheParadise Isle Island, which Quenoa from...

...his not face on LESCO so true, but anyway, going a bit indefinitelyidea of anomos peak in a sexual drink, rakhis three times it's a little efryat some one said before we can't really say she wasn't a sexualthough she did say a Rochin. She did have attributes of someone who's, not a sexual, butsomeone who has pledged no sex but lucky for us when looking for anaero as repeat repersentive in Greek history, there are, there are other twoknown Virgin Goddesses Hessia and Athena we're going to look into Athenawho, by the way, is the baddest rich on the entire planet. Like you read a bookabout a Thena and you're enliten, just quick for not footnote thisepisodeisn't, no raysponsible, not I not that I know of unless any of youlike to me, not that I know so. I of you all the time. Again. This is speculation. I don't theGreeks never had a word for air a so it's speculation, but Tino was not born in the casual sexualway as in a baby calling its way out of the vagina. It's not crawling, we doese say than before. The baby called regalaient of it wriggles out well called. Actually,my by teacher said it's more like a cannon, oh my God, exactly. Instead, She MochoZeus Zeus's head after he ate the goddess meet. I know the Lord me make make me. I think it has no stories about poringa lover except for one with a thesis...

...in which he did not feel the same wayabout him. Instead of feeling the love of a brother and a sister, but not theold ham, Ay, it's not that way. She did not want sex it them, though he didthings she did and he tried things but a mark. As I don't know, what are you to the most know? GoddessINA has it's the closest timing ate having no sexual thoughts and noromantic partners. When you look into her, it makes sense why she's not so.She definitely paves away for an error at icon. Ingres I mean I still. Oh, I still sentArtimas, but okay, we don't know how much everyone talks about. Automo isbeing the baddest bitch and like the the Pantheon anomos was gone because she automa washunting. You know who was in the court fighting for Gay Right Athena, youchallenging her dad who was the god of Gods, Athena Adsis, O sitting in a poolwith some very beautiful, ladies, not having sexual thoughts, and I then itwas out here. Not Caring about sex, not cable were matic fil, it's not havingthem. I seem I like Artemis, okay, he's Erway, I still Wawawai, so artemis, nocottage core and Athena was girl. Loss to you have on e atomists would only be considered. Asexual air pace has automatic, show some more loving towards thepeople. Teepee feelings: Oily Artemis had like a thing like atemple, and people would worship her by performing sexual acts that were nottechnically sex, so she was a technical virgin so like there's this wholetheory where she would only have sex...

...with women so that they, like people,still considered her virgin because she never had sexual man. Oh on a Artemis fandom. She did fall inlove with people, so she was. She was not a romantic like a then I may a beenand would only have been a sexual. It's like Ye Gran on on in the ancient Greekand room the goddess stable, which sly that's a really fucking, pretty name. She was worshipped by a culti males whowould castrate themselves and refer to female pronouns and attire immaculate,exactly they've since been referred to as early trans, gender figures and themale Banu was a focus of male sexual attraction in Eton Rome. So it wasactually socially acceptable for men to have like accept the penetrative roleand sex so on. We need to the Romans paced sorry, but can we talk about the way every avoided?The word bottom. You can say bottom, it's, okay, very, Oh, my God. I didn'teven think of that. This is how I am when we we. We talk about the fact thatavery wrote when in Rome pig is the Romans protag op, but even the crowd with you, Brown froid with. Iwould be proud. The only sexual in oven for it is, though, actually today youorfeverye wondering, for it is when you say one thing, but you mean your mother Ahe. The only thing avery would do forsexual act is Pegan a man. I rest my...

...case continuator Li. Oh my God, Laro Darry, you, Oh my God.Wait then say how did we kill avery? I? How do you think God? I E brings us so little joy, somuch that so much bleach today. It's funny!Maybe you need to finish your now. Even the Tallow Roman Hispanic emperor he's Hadron, it's Hadrian. I did. Ithink he hadrian cause o the best o. So whenever we don't know, word we're justgoing to stop talking and somone will fill it in yeah. Honestly, it's kind oflike it is well shutting. L Edit it so it sounds really fake too anyway. Hadrian not Hadrian. Hadrian isrenowned for his relationship with a man named antinous. Another emperor named, I fucking, Google, this pronounciationten O polus. No, it's just elagabalus Alaga Ball.Lest a like a low. I A oh, my God, a b aves trying to kill me avery tried togive me this paragraph, but I had to change it to add in the I fenix, my Godavery so, but it Kay you need to like rethink this paragraph doesn't walk. Weneed to. Thank God. I moved it. Go Yes, elagabalus. However, the fuck youtoday, his name is depicted as transendental writers, but theirsayings of delight in being referred to...

...as a white, mistress and Queen, and I'mpretty sure actually that they also had a gay lover. Who did it have a gay lover and ancientgrise and Roland Rome anyways were from egg your boyfriend? Why not? It's alsospeculated that. The first known the same sex marriage was, as recorded inRome during the rule of Sesar Otis. So I don't know, that's cool, I'm going totext my boyfriend and ask me if he wants to go to Rome. Oh my God be funny. If you know thatmeans I know like if we secretly like been listening to all the podcastepisodes. How would you know about Pagan, Rome from listening to the podcast? Likeimagine he's just like a secret fan? Oh my God he's our biggest. Listen, all!Imagine one avery or no. Now it's so on! Yeah T S! Oh, I know what have taken five minutes:okay, yeah ha ha. Why not well well take this time. Can I talk about allload and SAV IOR, ten, okay shut, the fuck up Greek Roman mits have it's kindof homosexual stories, though, with the most focus on male living. Maleliterature. You men, but like that's cool to me that I ll that shows that,even though they were excepting with sexuality, they were still sexist.Fucking missage Anne Ruins everything I totally lear they were like. Yes, welove the gays women, though in there's like one Greek myth where it's likesupposed to be: women, loving women, but it's actually Zeus disguisinghimself as a woman which doesn't count that that doesn't count dude. I wonderlike if I wonder if the Greeks were homosexual because they were somessages, tic O. It's like that. Like...

...thing, that's like, like you know thatthing that was being around on the Internet, it's like Oh, like estrogen,can enter your penis during sex. So, like it's the least gay to have sexwith a man I sent that to anyway, like I wonder if they were likethat, like slightly Homo Oratis footballplayers, God, I have so much proper history that, like you, don't even knowanyway, go on Sweetie, including a Celles and Patroclus the most fucasbest sponge broads best friend. It is as the two most popularized gaylovers in Western culture. I have bonds notable Greek characterssuch as Hercules, minos or hares leaves heracles Hercules not like the White, Persian, not Hercules, heracles, anyways,orpheus, Pius and Perseus Narcissus, and okay, okay and gay and ye are alldepicted in taking part sexual relationships, as well as the gods,Dianic maculate Zeus, O Poseidon, Zephyrus, Pan and Hermes, Apollo andPeres, and a Poltandie Apollo that nather we go say it again. I added it to make it own better someon, if you want to say again, as well...

...as the gods, Dionysis Zeus, Poseidon,Zephyrus, Apollo, pan and Hermes Apollo had the most male lovers of all theGreek gods. FUCKING ICONIC A lot anyways right. Sorry still, he totally. Is We love them, though?Exactly we love as I will. I follow so sometimes he pops in you're a slut he'snot here right now, because if he's here right now, he probably be mad atme, but I'm just thinking like. I hope I don't like edit this podcast. Hecomes in Hey. What's the the fuck, what you got to say about me an additionally and poetry, chronicles,consisting of more than eleven thousand lines to character, IPHIS and canisswitch sexes which is pogers so or awe wants me to say this line. I don't want to no. Basically, we hope that you will beable to think about Greece without thinking what what so give me a minute. We hope that you willnot be able to think about Greece without thinking outgate as well,though again we recommend doing your own research. Take me on the surface,grab a fucking trouble and digging to the Google. Unless you have no Wif I,but I no. No, I I I I listening to us that's valid. I guess find your own gay and transcender Iconsume on the Greek and Roman era and make sure to tweet them at us. ACT LBunder store underscore death that we can see who you're, gay and transcendericons are make sure you tune it next week for our mid evil and middle ageperiod. What we talk about the gaze in that time period heads up. It's notlooking that good. We might even talk...

...about how the would fagin seemed to be. Why maybe remember as we go deeper intohistory. Majority of history is written by the sithed people, so many historydocuments exclude ojite matters. There are thousands of possibly, but who wasgay straight trans and envy further more sort of more further forthe more Oh, my God tack you, I am making every once again for war othermore like okay, Lacon word that one's time,but no, no, no, it's the consent. It's CON, so I added in the think pots owould have been here was what they would have sun like in Avery's headready, guys tune it next week for next era, them an evil and and middle age.Further! More! Remember that, no matter how that doesn't any! I just me I feel like it shouldjust like cut it out of you remembered anyway. Anyway. I think we're done. Weget fun of ARY for now. Remember that, no matter what your identity isromantic sexual, what remember what your identity is, whether it be aromantic, sexual or general identity. You are to pin out for that. For from afly as fuck or a I translate from the SMO language,ballad US fuck, listen, I try to write pogers instead,O valid and avery was just silencing me. Kept changing as soon and all I see is a barthe good Julie, a re and I'm just sitting here trying toread my poet, Oh Yeah D. Well, that you know, I thinkwe all have a very deep love free car...

...story. Some of must agree that Automois overrated. Not that cool, maybe go. Oh,a twin yeah, that's just you! I think that's what the majority of us.I think that's the majority of us, but no you're, not the majority shut thefuck up. We all agree, may the fuck we all agree. The Best Gretais dionysis and you know what deinias would say your validus fuck, and wegave me it to a to make to the follow us here so that you can tune in nextweek, as we will be here next week, talk about the next or in history a sponsored by Dionysis, though for e anyway. We hope you judge this episodeand we hope to see you next week that we can talk to you about Mieville andtalk about night, history and stuff related to that, but I ad slight homoor Otitis m with en Arthur and Berlin. You know all that fun stuff aroundtable. What was that about? Can I finish Otro, let's talk I just in at them and finish it myself,the pause. We love to see you next week, if not have a good rest of your life isthere anything to add valid, is fuck, stand the gaze and agree as a gaze good, bye guys bonby by by I a.

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