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House of Cards: An LGBT Podcast
House of Cards: An LGBT Podcast

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House of Cards: An LGBT Podcast; LGBTQ+ and Religions

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Today we played would you rather and talked about how Christen, Jewish, pagan and Wiccan Religions and how they feel and work out with LGBTQ+ Communtiy. 

Hi Welcome to the houseof cards andLGBT podcast. Where we talk about gay things, we love gay ye a do. We Stan Andhi, myname's Jackson, IU CV, Poam O. I didn't do that last episode, Anhattime. If you don't know, if you don't knowwhat I pone on o tick, one ofor other epesodes and shit, we said at once and I'm goingy trying to reevent myanimal crossing village, because I can't lead that my life yeah, I'm avery, I use she her pronounsand in the last few episodes I mentionedthat I'm knitting an octopus. I just found out that I accidentally ditchedan additional one. Hundred fifty three O Getcou is tree. Now, one hundred and fifty three, I don'tknow how it happened. Yeubut you said it was a hundred and fifty okay. Anyway,sorry yeah yeah me too. That's my life, I'mso didsturbed Idon't even know how that happened. Ifeel like that. Shouldn't AV happened. I feel like there was a mistake. Itshouldn't have. There was a mistake and its name was Jackson. Honey backs yeah. No, it's a mood. Okay,someone needs to introduce hourself now yeah right, II'm SMO, I'm a Nitaholic,Anda Yu. She Pro Oh itweare, going to be talking aboutreligion today. So if you have any trigger that involved religion, don'twatch thit or don't listen to this episode or at least wait or you could like cutoff art. W start talking about our topic. If you feel like listening to us,Playo game and promote and that stuff yeah we'll give like a little heads up,yeah we'll say I we before about to begin they'll, be a quick, we'll, givea quick like fifteen second time for you to quickly pose the video e, throwyour phone out of window. Whatever walks. Ityo video, you Guye Victor Frankenstein was agrave broper yeah. How do you think? Do you think they? What do you thinkpeople donated the body is to a college student so that he could remake a humanbody? I honestly don't know what I thought, but the science I wanted she turnd in thefrankmunts time. Damn I don't think that's what they do.When you give a boddy of science, they just see how you decompose dram bag,that's great fuck! What do you want them to do? I wantthem to turn me. Inte fanks o got the spider. I START I'm plaing out re's. There's such things as body, an farmswhere you, like literally, Send Your Dead Body and they study howl, bugs hyour corts guys, Gro Ge. I've just been. I just got tem bittenby a stater spider man. Andi Wentni literally wentunconscious in the game like they just S, knockd about you get pit, AFOcharacter dies wet and I can't open my notebook YeyouGTCHIG in and Oup. So I don't know what you're saying but you'll citching in and out sorry. Iwrite prone cons, wost about guys and that's AEM Bein the same notebook thatI' promote from anyways. I'm a CON guy. WELL DO FORMOUT! ThenOyou can find us on Instagram at House...

...of cards under sport, podcast ontwitter, at LGBT undersore deck on patron as just house of cards, and ourwebsite house of cards, lgvtcom Sweth wexsite and on Tumbler its house ofcards Bu, whom you did great sweetie and catstick. We love you so much. Okay, so relating to our conversation.Actually before we started, recording frank inscience monster is in fact male,but I cannot find any definite source that states that frank ansteine monsterhas a penis okay, so for context before we started,recording me and Jackson would fass tirsting over Frankinstein and, like we werewondering if, if you were to like do stuff withReckinston Whith his Dick Break Off and like part of it, be inside of you orkill you like. What can we talk about? How, like everyone, has the MEA as itlike frankmen ugly, but in the actual literation? The only thing that's scareabout him is: He has Yellow Eyes Yeah. Everything else about him is like he'sjust really attractive: Majho Guy, except Yeit, thes, that's Lik, any guy who is an alcoholicis Yeo. Is Yet people still date, Themano Git, kidney failor, literally my Grandpa, I cans just hadjondice peopoe didn have to hate him for that. Well, they hated they hated people forlike having long hair and not there being mam. So anything she did was valid as FUC,except for making up somebody with yellow eyes as a bad person and a demon.What is that Toi Posson in care? Will e Yo rotit as like part of a contest in keeppoint o anonymously to, because I don't think they would have accepted if theyknew that it was a woman who rote it. We didn't seem like a woman wrote it,except that is like an actual good story. Wait! Okay. The rendition of this storythat I heard is that Mary selly was like hanging out with her guy friendsand they had like a race to write a story like in the horror category. I guess, and they were like partyg in acastle and getting drunk his fuck and like writing more stories, and should shethat she wrote the best one did she exist when they are castle? Still? Yes, there's still castles out like aroundnow to Ye blike, you don't see anybody going throughh, Pathi and like hangingout guys. We should go to Scotland and hang out in an abandond castle, okayand then whot Ey possessed by a dead Porson. That's a second thing. I wantto talk about this Sohi Ely, Fu, Iana, TAC, O I back to the castle. Oh mygodline, to Oiy I Y er waslike talking about how she wentto Belinad, there's like a lot of shame surrounding ancestory. So they justdon't talk about it. You Know Becauseis, your ancestorscould be a bad bitch yeah. So if people immigrated from Germany or Berlin toCanada or America or wherever they don't talk about their ancestry or thepeople who knew about it, died, Oh, like T, Hal died or like died as it. Nolike died, aold age. So, like somebody's grandma, you know like shecould have told her whole family about where they came from and whatever inGermany or Berlin. But she didn't because she didn't want to because shefelt like that was a bad bitch yeah, because her grandma was a badbitch M. FO grandma, like was an escapy orsomething like. I write fifteen jaild there's something wrong with my Yang. Ineed to...

...fix this okay. What is your guys,opinions on like the like supernatural abnormal? I seen supernatural, because that likesounds like weird, it's not just me that I hate the term tegetrol s Gee albecame cannon. Oh my Godoh, okay nonope! Anyway. What do you think about that? Because Iame this really cool Porson Tovotin of what they think like when you see gosesyeah, so you know how we only see gos in he pasttimd like in the ancienttimes yeah like only cose from like Youh,eighteen, hundreds or whatever, weird so thr, one thousand nine hundred andsixty nine that died at woodstock of Garago Werdos. So, but what I hard is something wellnow I heard I listen to the stary is that somebody thought that what wouldbe cool is that, where you see ghost, is it like when somebody died? But it'swere this faceis between the different times is then because, like the idea that, liketimeis not lining Yo until like those two areas overlap in time, and so this,maybe you see like a little boy dancing on a bed or something like a ghost yeahand you tell them to Stopan. They disappear with that. Little boy in histime sees this weird adult welkon and tell him to stop. It's like that C see each other. Inthis little thin area of Purn Thac, I thin o scientifically possible to withthe theory of worm holes exactly it's just it's where to one whole or one oer,somthingesist an so. You can glap the limps into the past wow. We are sonerdy. We Really dobing solving quantom physics, Bro. I don't know I used to play withlike Wegi boards a lot I still kind of do. I don't know mucde snow right now,but Wa. I hate Wou t pods the PEO weecy boards they're just for fun they're,not for like actually doing anything, because I don't personally believe theyactually do anything. But what is really cool about them is,if you do it alone, wich you regoment. I had nightmare for weeks anyways,because a demon probably like possessed you or something like Leep, coses, wor,colicinations Dude, get on my level fuck. That literally sounds likesomebody like wats continue, Oh yeah for sure, but I com bout to get thisbadbage Yofel Thain, you whilinsane, I don'tKnowi, don't know why you think wish why you would ever think he. Okay, okay fucking, my mother has always taught me, nevermess with them and I believe that whole heotly- Oh, I don't what's because like I believethat like want something to dead, just leave it alone. R, like a ghost, is viving in your room.Is it harding you no Benley would be you have a new friend? That's all! Thatis why cant you be happy, so we're going to play. What do yourather again s? We all kind of rinted the game, andI did see one of your guys, a suggestion for a game. I just have toactually google all the stuff and get everything ready. So we're going to do.Would you rather agein today, I know so boring how unoriginal it was some ownidea. Fu, you never my fault Ab. Do you want to soboff yeah? Okay,...

...so would you rather only wear plad forthe rest of your life or only wear jump suits Blak, blod yeah? I look good in sumpsuits. Really I wa, like you, would what's a jump.Sup Give me a second like a like a romper Jackson and a ramper io know what thats jmsu to jump throughTrom Su cum Su like pansod. Oh, no, I feel like I'd, be hideous. I have one that I really like, and itreally makes my house my hips pop. I said hops wow. Every anything you wearmakes your hip hops backs. I have really nice hips. I love it. Myfavorite part about myself. It does a little hail, flifp onehundred percent. Every knows they be looking good intheir outfit. I do semon. Do you want to go? Do you haveone ready, have one okay, keep your head shaved, not completely balt butshaved, or never be able to cut your hair ever again. Just keeps growinglike Reponzal Sur shaved for sure, because as a male that's way, Mosesushly acceptable than very long now. The I kind o want really lollong hair,because I know my hair can't girl past my shoulders and just start splittingSha, because I literally showed up to my first year of our summer camp with aball of head o UN thou, throw back to when peoplethought I was a cancer kid guys or back to when my mom AKD. Oh my God, I forgot.I wasn't there, but I remember you telling me you know it was like robotlike you had cancer. Not only did I like shave my head, but I also Idissocated my knee that summer. So I showed up in a knee, brace and e save head. You justhat, like themost unforturate for as looking back, I'm like wow people must have thought Iwas dying or something. I sometimes still think that thanks owl hot maneurologist, yeah Mnomany of us have those you know. I'm built their frent built. Okay, Jackson, you have to do or wouldyou rather now what I do? No, I don't I'll just like leave. Okay just leave, so would you rather go on a date where youcloud watched or starwatched? If it'sif you' worried abouttemperature at all, then like you can like a CNOR temperature o all Rit irs,you guys live in small towns. Som twhat was yours clouds, because I at night I would haveto worry about getting murdered. Well, like no like ut, no woy, there's nolike problem, you Cann just do what you want. No one's going to kill you thesno got like what your just personal preseence, Star gazing, but only if there's acoment going by other than that Co. Fucching yeah, that's justthat's! Just because if youcould board, you can easily like have a seg yeah, and I liked tha son Ewe. What didyou say? Probably Stars, but like that's honestly, just like theaesthetic like line gown in the back of a pickup tracklike middle of nowhere looking at stars...

...and it's like gooting around to that' Nife, probably staw, watching as well, so becompletely honest like I would do strong watching like I would love oftie still watching. Brout of the two I picked I would pick starwashing starain saw whati wascalled star. Often I love stars. Os are so pretty good glad o Yeu whatyou say I watching you can be like. Oh my Godthat club looks like you, your sof sexy a you. Can Sav e Lik so, like you couldsay my love Shiines brighter than the staws in the sky. You can tell eachother stories about trid about Greek tragedies. You kind of point at Acoss,solation, really you're, just like making one up by a line and no one'sgoing to know the difference Te. Nobody knows conspelations, no, I'mpretty sure. That's like if' The vogos up and I'm like where it's those threelines yeah. I know the stories behind constellations, but I don't know whatthey look like and I could not find them. I only know the big differentworldie because if I can literally never find them, I can always find a Ryan,though I can always find the big a little bit of Ewen when they' not inthe sky, to be able to she them from our trailers wow. We should get into our topic. I justrealize that we've just been talking Yo een. Talking for like sixteen minutes. Oh true, I forgot yeah everything getscut out, yeah we cut somethings out and I'm big brain today yeah, you wasalways like. We've been talking, Tor Tho, any minutes o like no we've beenon call for thirty minutes. Yeah. I can see how long we've been recording. I just I go into the listus mining fors,I'm like oh well, okay, thanks avory! So again, this is yourTriggowanni. We are talking about religion, howreligion hes with LGBT and all of that together. So if youhave problem religion, if Tama or just likte, not you don't wantto hear this tanback off get out. Go Hai no Youix. If you have yeah, ifyou have Religonama, then you could definitely leave because this i's just going to harm you andenjoy having viewers. We don't want them home, so we're just Goinna, justquick fifteen seconds, hopefully by now you've quickly exid out of the way, andwe can get into our topic of religion and lgb Du plus, so wellready Yah, Sir okay, so well, peopletypically pay religion with homophobia. It's quite controversial and can havemulpitule effects on an individual, individual and thor family,Christianogy and half Catholicism. Arcaser yeah tend to be the most popularcontroversary, but are actually very open about theLGBN community in and outbof the Bible. There's even one passes that reas.There is neither man nor woman which may which many transandonputing peoplehave taken to especian beyond Genera gendo binary, even though the Catholicchurge itself were forced to gay sexes of Fin there. There are some teachersthat claim to be just as spiritually...

...valuable as Heterosex teterosexual sex.That was a lot of stacks yeah, okay, teachers, that claim it tobe a very spiritual, Ong roll as hit sorry reme. Braind, I don't know if Isaid that right so again, as the CASSIC church orforcsto gay six of the sin, there are some people, Tho claim it to be just asspiritually valuable as heterosexual sex that it. I realized like that,sounded more like bord coming out of a mouth, so yeah like I was saying justespecially if or evilit heterosexual sect, and have many notable, LGBT QPLUSmembers, includ, ingcrease and vishal. Additionally, as the Church teaches onecant choose to be heteosexual or homosexual, itcanit can techally, itcan technaly be classified as a sense. So yeah, that's atsie again, yes that death anyway, I'm back in the closetright now, because Sa will carry less throughout my house. Anyways there's been a lot of discourse withinthe Christian and Catholic communities about the inclusion of Da People. Iwould like to say, though it's more Catholic people thanChristian people. Christian people tend to be more accepting, oh drap, just I don't know which Wot Baptis as in,but I know Thaptis is one of the worst under the car, like the God kind ofreligion. So you, if someone is Baptist and they go to pot ICARGE like if somebody vente to Babostuton, Iguy- I wouldn't go- that's where they are very bad te that that's why myfamily doesn't go to church yeah. He had a Catholic school, be like I jot like women, know gay people what those don't exist. It's Notas many arguments for gay intlusioninclude that discrimination may drive young people away from the church. Thatis very true and that the truth is God's. Love is unconditional for allpeople. There have been many protests about these issues and Atota cool name, Alfredo Ormando, a gaywriter and died after setting himself on fire ind protest of Catholicdiscrimination, Persoa II know I would do that partial to this. There are manyLGVT church organizations and then estimated t o thousand the fifty eightpercent of gay priests in the early twohousands, as well as much as thecommunity, including classical author Oscar wile. We Love Oste. We do. I follow an Oscar Wild Fan, account similar to Judaism, the Tora, which isthe Jewish Bible, historically states gay sex to be a sin which is an opinionmore modernly associated with Orthodox Jews. On the other hand, Reform Judaismallows homosexuality and gay marriage. There are even two stories in theHebrew Bible that are occasionally interpretated as homosexual, the storyof Ruth and Niomi in the book of Ruth and the relationship between David andJonathan. In the book of Samuel, which I I haven't personally read thosestories, but I don't know maybe I'll search him up after Ma, Goofer them abit and readeah fire tyeah it' classical and shit more moreclassical Jewish interpretation further goes on to state that, while homosexualattraction isn't a sin, homosexual intercourse mayve, whereas lesbianismhas been never explicitly prohibited.

So you know not to like came shame,ancient Jews, but everyone just likes lesbians. You knowwho doesn't that's true anyway. The Reform Juda is a movement hasbrought dozens of achievements for lgbt practitioners, including fullacceptance into the religion and two instances from two thousand where itwas stated. We do hereby resolve that. The relationship of a Jewish same sexcouple is worty of affirmation through appropriate Jewish vitual andintegrating LGBT education into Catholic studies, astitute students tostand up against Homophobia- okay, her. I really. I really hope that I saythis right. Modern Pagan taaism actually has a lot more lgbtpercentage than most mainstream religions. Thi UMLDVT Pigans, fine struggle with theset binary with more masculine, relating to the sun or impregnative heritage and feminine traditions, whichAres more like the moon and fertile culture, Yeas more commonly in thetwenty fot century. However, members have challenged the gender BineArey and question the existence of Queer and nonbinary DVS, as well asincorporating sex, positivity and TDSM into the exploration of Pagan Culture.Can I actually say some likequick? I want. I do study a little bit ofPaganism aiont want to forsh about that too. So modern pagonism recognizes thateveryone has feminine and Masculine Energies, Antulyall related to mal and female, which are related to mal and female, but itdoes not mean that you have to be male or Pi to exep fond. They aren't relatedyeah, they are't, so it doesn't mean that you have to bemale to experience masculine energy. You can just havemasculine energy as something that flows through you. Yeah. A lot ofpeople have both a lot of people, have a mixture or a percentage of nasculineor feminine energy. When it comes to ritualistic practice God and it can beinterchangeable and use for different things, it can be channeled intodifferent practices. Yeah. I want to talk about that to as yeah how MAXICA and Inceminim, in the Pagan andin the wicken religion don't mean mal and female as they are in society.That is a society build thing. They mean different types of energies,yeah oppen, to associate with male and female, but they don't iklike somepeople, you need both yeah. Everyone has both, yes and you normally allrecommended to have both like you, needn equilism, yeah. Well, so talking about that wickens are quitepositive on the homosexual view and some believe it creates insight to masculine and femilinefeminine rituals. There are two: What Mono and you known minimum orpaizations calledthe Brotherhood and sisterhood the specific specific to gaze and bisexualsWitha Gournnat. A religious naturalism is also quite incorprated and Uniteurism io you interor universatism values about diversity,diversity of gender and sexralty. As a spiritual gift, yeah awe touched on three worldreligions. There are more than hundreds out there with dozens of use on Helgvtcommunity. Even if you identify with a religion that maybe isn't asprogressive remainstream with modern...

...views, you can always. You can almostalways find others in that religion within yourcommunity. Additionally, Gaysex is usually only seen ascentul because it'snot meant for propriation. Just remember that you're, you not entitledto any belief or fats just because you identify a certain way. Your beliefs inyour sexuality is valid as Fulk in every sense of word, and you can almostalways find someone to relateship, and actually I didn't write this onedown, but I don't even know why I didn't, but like of so much of greak mythology is like so inclusive and diverse in terms ofsexuality and gender. No, an WOMANANS COPOLTIC I find is a bit kind ofswaying on it, a lot of the OGA religions and althoughpeople seem to be more closive of it than what you think yeah and actually I have a couple things Iwould like to at so yeah. I know that you two are more spiritual kind offaith, whereas yeah, I know Yeah Soo. You want to go actually into whatyour kind of belief Isn'n, what you do, quick just so that people kind of know, but yes sure. So what I do is I try toget in touch with myself through not so much Staro Gides, but I useterro cards to figure out how to deal with struggles. I I don't really deal with dieties,because I have not done enough research yet and it kind of scares me. I do celebrate Major Pagin holiday sortof so that would include like Yul, Mabon and Fuk. What's the other one, itit just happened, it's our version ofHalloween the new year. I can't remember whatit's called, but I got what you're saying yeah. Oh, I really wish. I could remember itright now: anyways, it's our version of Halloween, where we oner the dead as the veil is very thin, and we wouldlike to prospect them as much as possible, whel they're closest to us. So what I do is, I I incorporate it into my day to daylife for kind of a sense of sanity, so that I have powerto move through at my day. So one thing that I do is I burn incense in themorning and I meditate and I carry crystals in my pockets or I wear themon a Elice, and I me because I'm also kind of intostouhis, I woke a bit more with the energies of the universe and feeling thedifferent life forces yesh. So I'm a little bit more, I'm very close toNature Youn. If I don't go ouside as much is when I am outside, I like toclose my eyes and just feel like the living force that surrounds us. I try of do tail cods when a questionis needed, but I don't rely on them too much because I like to rely on how theuniverse is. Tilting me an this means a lot of sitting. Still. Basically it'snot the Betet. I don't meditate the way that, like most of the peop were likethey sit on a main area. I sit and I stay off and that's my meditation ofjust feeling the energies around me andthat's Mhy porsonal kind of belief into it. I wolk sitet with DDS, not more of them getting me started, but I have never walked like alongsideone very long and that's all two different practices.Os teysic. I don't think any of us do...

...practice the wotor religion. Do you I I'm going onto pactic paganism. Ibelieve, because of my roots, I felt both of them were a little bitconstricting. I kind of do my own thing, which is actually verycommon within different practices of wichcrast yeah ecause yeah whatcause, a religion inwhich crap, for which grafp is not worker, yeah and Davy, is come intoplay when you practice hellenistic, wid, wickup or fol Greek gods, which is thehandling of great gods, are working with them. Whatever I don't know what it's called when youwork with Roman gods, though I think it 'd, probably, I think it's Halen tick,Ol Roman as well. Probably I de fo fact is called telleism when you're workingwith the Greek dudes and then there's clectic, teganism yeah, there'scolswichis walking with the Celtic gods and the Kelte peepl. I think that thatnormally falls under it doesn't fall under, but there's apossibility of going into juidism, which is something I'm a little bitinterested in Yeah, O beautiful hearing. You guys talkabout your fate. I don't know why. I'm just like I'm so like kind of enchantedlike wow like this, is like a belief in a faith yeah. The thing is, I am: A lot of peopletend to create it withen themselves, not follow a Geperation, which is whatI think is beautiful about it. Yeah it doesn't Causewhen you Getacos, then that you are expected to donate money and you're expected to go every Sundayand you're expectin to do all these things. With this, you kind of do whatyou feel you do, what you, how you feel, what is necessary and yeah? What else was the going to say yeah itdoesn't fit into RSTRICTION. I feel religion in a Colt, inpide actual for the actualwardor Wat. A culp really is not Bo. What the modern society as to call thecod religion is a cold. It's a group of people that come together, foward ofGod, but faith doesn't have to be that Ihave a few things that I would like to say about Greek mythology and inclusion, and alsothe Bible. Really quick. Yeah go on go on Gorightarinthat, so we know. We allknow the phrase I'm sure by now a man shall not lay with another man, as helies with a woman that was actually changed during WorldWar, two in Germany, from a Manchell notlay with a boy as helives with a woman to yeah. I think I read that yeah. That's I don't know howaccurate that is. TBUT. I have heard I've tor that it was actually a miss missread of the Hube Pobo officialthing because of its wart selected has bothbeen used as man, but it was normally related to younger man, not oldemanyeah, which relates it to Boin ot man, that's what I've Hor Portunately isthat it was just a miss bueo miles. I also have another thing that relates to Greek leliefs and gender fluidity, so the God for Mes. He is the Messengerand I'm sure everyone has heard the term it's outdated now for sure. Butthe term is her maphrodite, which comes from the Greek God Hermes, who isambiguous in gender? He doesn't have or Sorr they don't have one and she fuck Tei, keep you thing he,but I cause what society is it's. What...

...societys told us is that yeah I havebeen conditioned. anyways, that's actually, SOEs not have a vender andHermes represents balance between two things, which I think is really cool.He he fo the only reason. We've been told thattheyre he is because the statues have been given a penis yeah,that's true, because I'm guessing they have a FII that does not make. Thenmale Okayho was like MMM yeah, ao selling, credible actually, and thatmakes one hundred amount of sense, and so permis is often represented by the terrol card,temperance, which represents balance and sort of like Areabellbo kind of balancebetween two worlds: Masculine and Feminine Energy, good and evil. Stuff, like that, hehermes is like a balance. Figure Hermes is the nonbinary icon, confirmed theyreally do be. I wjus Hav O thought that I need yeah yeah. I love havingthoughts now fot had added o thoughts had emptywelove that nonfinary icons other than that. Is there anything else?We want odd on yeah, I really don't Ando, you have anything El. No, I don't think I do okay, then I think that is it for today'sepisode. This again, we hope you enjoy it. We hope you can get too good. Wehope you are introduced to a new world and seeing the difference and three religions and the ltb community.If you want to know more look up on Google and you can read who about it, we're not going toeducate you on everything that sexuality or topic has ofboc. We Shandefinitely do our best to get you to starp doing it yourself and begin nreusearching and begin looking at it soveryinteested. He lit up a bit Mak Coul, definittely ear in like few weeks time, maybe in our likesecond season of the podcast, we could do it like a second part to this episode,probably we Don Thames involving religion. We can't tell you how ow tofanker, where you'll fit, and you kind of just figure it out fat Osa and it'swhat your faith is, and sometimes you don't have any faith at all and that'smore where I fall. Actually that's that about so mindo you are as someone seperfectly ballad is fulk yeah and we will see you next week. Okay, so you guys bye have a good week.

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